New Member from the US

Hallo

I am a new member from the US. I own 3 siberian chipmunks, 2 agouti (1 male and 1 female) and 1 dilute (female). I imported them from the UK. I had another agouti who was imported from China, he was sick and lived only for 1.5 years but he was the most intelligent chipmunk I owned. I have had my chipmunks for 2 years.

I was just in Germany for work in the Heidelberg area. I have been to Germany 2 times for work.

Can the members on this forum provide titles and authors of books that are written in Germany so I can learn more about the Siberian Chipmunk?

I also have many questions for the German Siberian Chipmunk owners.

1. How did the siberian chipmunk get to Germany? Did the South Koreans export them to Germany?

2. When were the siberian chipmunks first imported to Germany? For example, were they first imported in the 1960's?

3. What is the most popular color of the siberian chipmunk, agouti or dilute?

4. Do the veterinarians well educated regarding the siberian chipmunk?

5. Are the siberian chipmunks sold in pet stores?

6. Where are the siberian chipmunks sold in Germany come from? Are they bred in Germany or imported from China or South Korea?

7. Is the siberian chipmunk considered an "exotic pet" in Germany?

Thank you for helping me learn more about the siberian chipmunk in Germany.

Thank you all for the warm welcome.

I will try to find the book. If someone can provide me the ISBN code, I may be able to import it from AmazonUK.

I work for a German software company located in Walldorf, DE but am located in their US subsidiary. I can use Google translate to translate it. It will be difficult but there are not many books written about the Siberian and I think I own all the ones written in English. I also have German colleagues in both Germany and the US that can lend a hand with my Siberian chipmunk hobby.

How do most of the HV forum members house their siberians, outside in an aviary or inside in cages?

What do the HV forum member own? agouti (brown) ones or the dilutes (white). which color is the most popular?

How many do most of the HV forum members own? One or many.

Everyone's english is terrific on this forum. How's my German? Only kidding!

My favorite chipmunk, don't tell the others, was Buddy (agouti) and he went over the rainbow bridge in January. I had him for 1.5 years. He came from a broker in Chicago and was probably imported from China.

I imported in June 2011, 4 chipmunks from a UK hobby breeder, 2 agoutis and 2 dilutes, male/female, unrelated so they could breed. The dilute male died after 3 days from arrival. I still have the others and am hoping for a litter of agouti. Lilly is the dilute and Remy and Martyn are the agouti.

I will load photos but I don't know how to resize them to meet the 150 K requirement.

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I've deleted the pictures with more than one siberian on it, because of the rules of the HV.
Ich habe die Bilder mit mehreren Streifis gelöscht - siehe Nutzungsbestimmungen.

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Every Tamias sibricus have to be housed on its own. So most of the forum members own only one of them.
That is the reason why I will delete every picture wich shows more than one siberian in one cage or not seperated area.

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The HV is strictly against hobby breeding and the rules of this forum forbid to speak about breeding.

I am sorry to admit, I did not read the rules about more than one chipmunk in a photo and breeding discussions. Now that I know these rules, I will abide by them. Are there any other important rules I should know about?

I will post individual chipmunk photos of Lilly, Remy, and Martyn when I get a chance.

I am curious, what are the reasons for these rules? Are they based in German Law or is it HV's forum rules. Either way, can someone explain it to me?

In the US, there are only a few of us that have Siberian Chipmunks, at least the ones that are active in networking to try to help promote the health and safety of the pet. There are even less hobby breeders in the US. We have to rely on getting our chipmunks from a few brokers who get them from a few importers. They are being imported from China. We have no idea how old they are and if they are healthy. I have met a few people on the US squirrel board that have chipmunks and posted on that forum because their chipmunks were not healthy and they were seeking advice.

This is the reason I imported 4 chipmunks from the UK last year from a hobby breeder. The importation costs were over $1.600 US or 1.200 EUROS, which was quite expensive. I am very active on a UK chipmunk forum where we can talk about anything. There are no forums in the US about the siberians because they are such a rare pet here.

How much in euros are the agouti, dilute, and cinnamon chipmunks cost in Germany?

Thank you for the book information. I will try to find it.

And I got a chance to look at some other pages on the HV website, the content is wonderful!

I was reading the HV forum rules. Please explain:

Domestication
is also responsible for rejected unfair Zähmungsmethoden.

thank you!

Something does get lost in the translation. I agree.

Show some times on the info bell-boy under 'no - go - Area'
There's a little boom will take away, eg, Described some people 'as a taming method apply!
Such a method signifies stressful for the animal and is, I find, breastfeeding extremely unfair. One keeps his retreat place himself in to the animal certainly feels! Thus it must take up with respective de people contact! (what can do such a translator program's everything )

This statement did not translate well into English. Try writing it in German again, send it to me via PM and I will translate it using a translator.

But Wow, what an interesting discussion/topic for me.

Chipmunks are solitary animals but they can co-habitate in a large aviary. The UK owners have proved this. I even have a pair that have been living together for almost a year. And yes, Remy the female was slightly aggressive towards Martyn and I separated them for one week and it cured the problem. If you are a responsible chipmunk owner, you can monitor the chipmunks when they are together. So is the solitary rule on this forum strictly a forum rule or a German law?

Concerning the taming method/unfair Zähmungsmethoden, what does the HV forum consider unfair, inappropriate, bad, cruel and so on?

Only positive taming methods have been discussed on the US or UK forums. I am curious about this topic in Germany and why it has been cited. The UK and US owners use this method to tame: patience, perserverence, kindness, and TREATS to build TRUST. The UK members and I that keep our chipmunks indoors allow them to run around loose in a room or in the house that has been "chipmunk-proofed" so they do not get into any trouble. letting them run loose allows them to build trust in you as they learn to approach you.

This exchange is so interesting!!!